Saturn vs. Pluto

Saturn, the Lord of Karma, is making a 90° angle to Pluto and will be exact this Sunday, November 15, 2009. Saturn just moved into Libra on October 30 and while Saturn moves through Libra it will be in its exaltation. (This is good!) Pluto has been moving in and out of Capricorn since January 2008. Because Pluto is so much further away from the Sun than Saturn, it moves much slower through the Constellations. But now these two planets have caught up with each other in what Astrologers call a ‘square’ pattern and this Square will be exact on Sunday, November 15, 2009. Saturn will be at 1° 41’ of Libra while Pluto will be at 1° 41´ of Capricorn at exactly 9:42am EST.

So, what does all of this mean to you? Well, let’s look at what the planets represent in our lives. Both of these planets are considered Astrological heavyweights. When they come together it’s a ‘Clash of the Titans.’ Saturn is the teacher. Saturn teaches us about our personal responsibility. Pluto is about rebirth, transformation, metamorphosis. The purpose of this aspect is to prepare the ground for a great leap in consciousness. Saturn and Pluto bring two bear energies that require discipline and effort. And, if we don’t discipline ourselves, circumstances come along and do it for us (Saturn). Pluto requires seriousness and honesty and it digs into the depths until the truth is discovered.

Any anger and/or frustration that you may be experiencing now has to do with your inability to let go of the past. Whether you like it or not, you are transforming (by your choice) or being transformed (Saturn stepping in and doing it for you!). Keep in mind that the world that lies ahead for you as you let go of fantasies, false hope and whatever is not suitable for you, is one of great joy! As you handle responsibilities (Saturn) sensibly, positive energy emerges and you begin to build a life that is solid, productive and grounded! Enjoy and grow in your vision!

36 thoughts on “Saturn vs. Pluto

  1. indigodanceIndigodance (Carole)

    I just realised, going back to my dream directory that night I had a really strange dream. (16th November)I copied this I sent to Cortney a few weeks ago.
    “Can you tell me what it means to see a night rainbow in my dream. It was beautiful !!!
    I dreamt I was asked to go into the back garden of one of my neighbours (nothing unusual – nice old man (86)who often shows me his garden) He said listen to this … music was playing “waltz” type “Vera Lynn” – “We’ll meet again” (old WW2 music) – with that, we started dancing/waltzing in his garden (it was dark and we had our coats on) – very sweet. I then looked up at the night sky and saw the most beautiful night rainbow !!””
    I just wondered if it was a link to my own friend I am missing so much. Both have Scorpio rising.
    Carole

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  2. indigodanceIndigodance (Carole)

    Me again.. Indigodance (Carole) just picked up message bit lower down from Amelia – seems to be picking up big style !!!!
    Feel like I am in washing machine waiting for it all to stop !!!
    Friend I mentioned is relatively new – his issues are with someone old – my psychic side says its her he needs to let go of – but she is playing games with his head. Not nice at all. Me and my friend are so psychically tuned I pick up his bad moods and all his feelings – so I feel the frustation is being taken out on me. He is Virgo – very neat and orderly and dosnt like this messing around – but still seems to think its going to come right.
    I have already, nearly risked our friendship saying the wrong thing – but in fact all I pointed out were his own inaccuracies (the truth)
    This is what has bewildered me so much – we have had many conversations on truth and trust.. I follow the Indigo path – I cant lie – its not in my nature – Karma wont let me !!
    Life can be a challenge sometimes…
    (PS – did wonder if husband might be leaving me – I know he dosnt want to be with me)
    Love to all and the Universe, Carole

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  3. indigodanceCarole

    Hi, I am Leo Sun, Scopio moon and Scorp rising. My friend is Virgo sun, Cancer moon and scorp rising.
    Having really bad time with friendship. He has issues with others and taking it out on me. My natal postition for Saturn 26 deg in Scorpio and 28 deg Pluto are in Leo. My home life is very bad at the moment and friendship has deteriated over his issues with friends with benefits (and taking it out on me – we are not lovers – just friends) His natal Saturn is 0 deg in Cap and Pulto 4 deg virgo.
    Any ideas !!!! need some sanity brought back, I am trying to be supportive but hes throwing it back at me for lover thats playing power games with his emotions.

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  4. Psychic Amelia 9772

    HI HI Sarah! Depending on the house for the upcoming December 31, 2009 Lunar Eclipse (either the 10th,11th or 12th), you will see career changes, friends leave and a more introspective time of your live unfold as you let go of the old and make room for the new. Enjoy!

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  5. Psychic Amelia 9772

    Eclipse energy has been proven to have a 6 to 9 month window of action. About three months before an eclipse hits, one begins to see activity in the houses in which the eclipse will hit. After the Eclipse hits, approximately six months will pass as activities begin to unfold and one takes action on those activities. Remember, Eclipses are very complicated and very powerful course-correctors. And, so much depends on what other planetary activity is taking place in each of our individual charts. I hope this helped!

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  6. Surya

    Thank you indeed. As a Capricorn with a Libra ascendant I am in the midst of major transformation and change. Most of all I am working on developing more spiritual discipline as I have Saturn in Pisces in the 5th house. Deep changes happening between my son and I and I seem to be drawing a lot of Libras to me, next Scorpions. Today I am cleaning, clearing, creating an altar and oops its time to go out and make an offering to my ancestors. So much is happening, but I regaining my confidence with this shift. Saturn is leaving my 12th house and the work that was done the last 2 and a half years is becoming visible! In a meditative, reflective mode today. Give thanks!! Thank you Amelia!

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  7. Amelia

    HI Carole! WOW! that moon and Ascendant in Scorpio is very powerful. I also have a Scorpio moon and today’s New Moon is at 24 degrees of Scorpio-Exact on my 24 degree Scorpio Moon. So, besides this Saturn/Pluto connection today’s New Moon is also taking you to a new place that will reveal truths you didn’t see before. And, in the process you will be leaving the past behind you. That past may include people that just no longer resonate with you. Remember though that the Universe does not like a void, so you will quickly fill up the empty spaces with new, kinder, gentler and wiser folks. Enjoy the process!

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  8. Indigodance

    This makes so much sense to problems I am having with others…. I am all for transformation and moving forward. Those around me are not and its causing much grief. I have moon and rising sign in Scorpio, hence I am always moving towards revealing the unknown.
    Carole

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  9. Psychic Amelia 9772

    I am very proud of you for learning the lessons of Saturn. Even through the darkest times of our lives we have to remember that there is always a reason and a lesson. Remember, these cycles are only temporary and soon you will be on top of the world. And, when you are on top of the world you will be much wiser because of the lessons you learned along the way.

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  10. Psychic Amelia 9772

    And, your awareness of how the energies work will certainly help you live a more fulfilling life in the present moment and possibly help them to do the same. You can do this by your example! Everything does come ‘full circle’, and Saturn makes sure we learn our lessons along the way.

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  11. Psychic Amelia 9772

    Interesting observation you made, dear Capricorn, about how you interact with more with the sign that Saturn occupies. You are very astute. As Saturn and Pluto now begin to separate from their conjunction you will begin to lighten up. And, now that you are more AWARE of your need to not be so ‘heavyhanded’ you will lighten-up even more. Enjoy!

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  12. Capricorn

    Being a Capricorn, I am naturally interested in Saturn and its influence on other signs, and over the years I’ve noticed that I interact more with people of the sign Saturn currently occupies. E.g., with Saturn now in Libra and Pluto in Capricorn, Librans and Scorpios impact my life. My friendship with two people of these signs has become somewhat rocky. I expressed by views on a debatable issue stating that if we didn’t support a decision but went against it we may lose an asset. I may have been too direct in my comments (Saturn as teacher?), as I wanted to be honest and clear about the proper procedures and rights, while discussing what good leadership was with Pluto! Your explanations on the impact of these heavyweights is a daily reminder not to be too heavyhanded while being clear about issues, as no one is perfect not even me!

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  13. Glenda Jasper

    How true this is with ones close in family that I know how they cannot let go of the past and this is the combusted energies they have exploted to others. Now is the time that all comes Full Circle..

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  14. Pat

    Being a Capricorn, I’m used to the heaviness of this particular sign and the lessons it teaches.
    Boy howdy. Just the fact that I have a huge sense of humor has helped…

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  15. CYNTHIA

    YES THIS IS TRUE BECAUSE I AM A CAPRICORN RULED BY THE PLANET SATURN A TASKMASTER I BEEN FEELIN THE EFFECT OF THIS DUAL SATURN AND PLUTO FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS MY EMOTIONS HAS BEEN UP AND DOWN BUT I WELCOME THIS VERY DISCIPLINE PLANET WHICH I STAND FRIMLY SATURN MY PLANET RULER I HAV BEEN A LITTLE MELACHOLY LATELY SPELLING THE WORD WRONG BUT I NO IT CAN MEAN SUM DEPRESSION SATURN TEACHES US HARD LESSON TO ACHIEVE BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS EVEN THROUGH THE DARKESS CHAPTER OF OUR LIVES SATURN VERY SERIOUS BUT THROUGH LIFES CHALLENGES AND LESSON TO BE LEARN U WILL COME THROUGH

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  16. kathy

    its amaizing how astrology works
    at the moment i am going through some major changes in my life
    along over due devoicer and i ended a 5 1/2 year relationship that was very one sided and not my sided lol
    so this helps me understand why i made a stand
    thank you

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  17. Psychic Amelia 9772

    Hello Miss Krystal and Penny and Chanel!
    I am so happy that this information was helpful to you. Yes, this is a BIG aspect that is expected to affect all of us in a positive way. Just look for how your world and your insights will be enlightened. Enjoy the process!

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  18. beautifullife_5

    Really, very good information related between Saturn-Pluto provided and its exact degreecal i.e. to search in very deep which bring us true result and forecast on original planets in the horoscope which help for the present situation, yes, Saturn, the Lord of Karma and Great Teacher in our Life from we learn manythings and makes our life on treack. Conratulations for the article.
    —–Indramantri (Hemant N. Vora) India.15.11.2009 Sunday 20:57 IST.

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  19. Chanel

    I can feel the energy getting stronger as I am becoming more conscious and serious about what is happening in my life. Thank you for posting this so I can understand it better.

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